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AvengingAngel Guest
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:51 am Post subject: |
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bangoskank star constellation


Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 43
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Tracian wrote: |
Tell that to the survivors |
There are no survivors that have been cured with alt-med.
| Quote: | | I admire your intelligence Banko, but contact the Cancer Institutes of America....it may surprise you. |
Sorry, but there is no scientific evidence that alt-meds work. If they did, they wouldn't be considered alt-med anymore, by definition. _________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Tracian"] | bangoskank wrote: |
I know many people of different beliefs (religious and non-religious, spiritual and non-spiritual), and so far, none of any belief corner the market on absolute intelligence. |
This is true, even the most fundamentalist of the religious can be very intelligent........ except when it comes to their religious beliefs, then all logic and intellect goes out the door. _________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire. |
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bangoskank star constellation


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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Tracian wrote: |
At one time there was no basis or evidence to prove the world was round, it was a theory and an act of faith in that belief. |
There has always been a basis and evidence to support the knowledge that the world was round. The horizon, the movement of the stars, the way water drains and more. However, even if I give you this statement as a fact it still just amounts to an appeal to ignorance. You're simply saying that "maybe" there is evidence, therefore you know superpowers exist. That is fallacious logic.
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As much as I admire Randi James, he offers 'tests' but ignores what he cannot explain, as many that cannot support with evidence. |
Not at all. He offers the test and accepts all testable claims that he receives. What more would you have him do, chase Chimera?
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Tell me, what would the world be, without those that 'believed' in something that was not the 'popular' belief? |
Do you actually think the paranormal is no a popular belief?! Skeptics, people like me, are actually a minority. Most people believe in some weird supernatural something.
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The only difference between us is that I am willing to admit that there are things in this universe that today cannot be 'proved' but are 'possible' perhaps 100 years from now, those things will be proved, or perhaps it will be proved there is nothing to prove. |
I disagree. I am open to the possibility, but I will simply dismiss all claims until evidence actually presents itself. You, however, believe without having sufficient evidence.
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..but in the end most of the great accomplishments of humans are those that took the chance to shake up what the popular belief at the time was...Darwin, Galileo, where would we be today if they did not have the courage to offer opinions even if at the time it was not 'provable' |
Those people you mention shook up popular belief with evidence, not just outrageous claims. _________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire. |
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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bangoskank star constellation


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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Faith, avenger, the same faith that tells people that it's absolutely correct to fly airplanes into buildings. _________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire. |
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| bangoskank wrote: | | Faith, avenger, the same faith that tells people that it's absolutely correct to fly airplanes into buildings. |
Faith is also what produced Ghandhi, Mother Theresa and Martin Luther King. So let's please remember that faith can be used for great good as well as great evil. _________________ still trying to think of something witty for my signature. |
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bangoskank star constellation


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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| janicelee wrote: |
Faith is also what produced Ghandhi, Mother Theresa and Martin Luther King. So let's please remember that faith can be used for great good as well as great evil. |
Of those three, only MLK is a person I'd consider to be a GOOD person. Ghandhi was racists, mother theresa was a sadist, only faith lends people to believe these two to be saints. Faith is only a motivator, it is not a source of knowledge, wisdom or morality.
_________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire. |
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