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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if dogs are atheists, or that babies are since they are unable to communicate in a way which is understandable to adult humans.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

typical agnostics... don't even care enough to post here.....
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AvengingAngel wrote:
  You either believe or you don't.


I disagree somewhat with that statement. There are variations in degree of certainty of belief or non-belief. I think Dawkins' belief scale does a good job of representing the range of possible nuanced positions on this question:

"In The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins formulated a 7-point belief scale from 1 (total belief) to 7 (total non-belief)....

  1. Strong Theist: I do not question the existence of God, I KNOW he exists.
  2. De-facto Theist: I cannot know for certain but I strongly believe in God and I live my life on the assumption that he is there.
  3. Weak Theist: I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God.
  4. Pure Agnostic: God’s existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable.
  5. Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists but I’m inclined to be skeptical.
  6. De-facto Atheist: I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable and I live my life under the assumption that he is not there.
  7. Strong Atheist: I am 100% sure that there is no God."

link: http://christophersisk.com/dawkins-belief-scale-images/

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DurhamDawg wrote:
AvengingAngel wrote:
  You either believe or you don't.


I disagree somewhat with that statement. There are variations in degree of certainty of belief or non-belief. I think Dawkins' belief scale does a good job of representing the range of possible nuanced positions on this question:

"In The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins formulated a 7-point belief scale from 1 (total belief) to 7 (total non-belief)....

  1. Strong Theist: I do not question the existence of God, I KNOW he exists.
  2. De-facto Theist: I cannot know for certain but I strongly believe in God and I live my life on the assumption that he is there.
  3. Weak Theist: I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God.
  4. Pure Agnostic: God’s existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable.
  5. Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists but I’m inclined to be skeptical.
  6. De-facto Atheist: I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable and I live my life under the assumption that he is not there.
  7. Strong Atheist: I am 100% sure that there is no God."

link: http://christophersisk.com/dawkins-belief-scale-images/

I'm a 6.



To me it really is binary.  Either you can say you believe in a god or you can not.  Either or.

And I can never put myself on a list like that one until the person tells me exactly what s/he means by "God".  And then my answer would vary accordingly.


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